1 00:00:19.40 --> 00:00:23.56 We heard yelling from the street that the hill was burning. 2 00:00:25.40 --> 00:00:30.00 I thought to myself, it's not just the hill on fire, it's the castle. 3 00:00:34.04 --> 00:00:38.24 When I saw the smoke coming from the castle, I ran to help them put it out. 4 00:00:39.20 --> 00:00:45.96 Even though I have had a heart attack, I ran up the hill. 5 00:00:46.52 --> 00:00:52.24 But the wind was so strong that it took the fire uphill very quickly. It was all over in minutes. 6 00:01:06.68 --> 00:01:12.44 The castle, Krasna Horka, survived Turkish invasions and a war. 7 00:01:16.16 --> 00:01:20.80 I couldn't believe it, and I still can't, that such a tragedy could have happened. 8 00:01:21.24 --> 00:01:23.24 If the fire wasn't caused by Gypsy children, 9 00:01:23.72 --> 00:01:25.60 what would be the reaction? 10 00:01:35.28 --> 00:01:39.84 In 1992 I started to build the foundation. 11 00:01:40.40 --> 00:01:42.04 I was building it purely from benefits. 12 00:01:42.60 --> 00:01:47.84 I saw the neighbour building here. So I said to myself, I will come here too. 13 00:01:55.72 --> 00:02:01.68 I was born here in 1957 and when I was 18, I went into the army. 14 00:02:02.32 --> 00:02:05.28 Then, in 1986, I returned. 15 00:02:05.32 --> 00:02:08.20 I was living upstairs in my mother's house. 16 00:02:08.24 --> 00:02:13.64 There were a lot of people in the house. 17 00:02:14.96 --> 00:02:27.00 I saw the opportunity to build a house. There was space everywhere, but it was swampy. 18 00:02:28.76 --> 00:02:31.32 No one ever told me I couldn't build here. 19 00:02:31.80 --> 00:02:35.88 Actually, we had the support of the former mayor. He didn't say anything. 20 00:02:36.52 --> 00:02:46.72 If he had known it was someone else's property, he would have told us that it was illegal. 21 00:02:46.80 --> 00:02:51.60 No one ever told me not to build here. Not when I was digging, not when I was building the walls. 22 00:02:51.88 --> 00:02:55.92 And now they say they want their land back. 23 00:02:56.40 --> 00:03:01.64 By law, the person who wants to build has to contact the owner. Otherwise, it is stealing. 24 00:03:06.04 --> 00:03:15.20 It is not about making them go away. These houses were built illegally. 25 00:03:16.08 --> 00:03:20.56 No one wanted that land, only Szaniszlo and the Kotleba (extremists). 26 00:03:24.64 --> 00:03:32.00 The land was so useless that you couldn't even use it as a pasture. It was a swamp. 27 00:03:33.64 --> 00:03:35.76 It had no value. 28 00:03:36.72 --> 00:03:40.48 Where the Gypsies lived was like a swampy bird's nest. 29 00:03:41.12 --> 00:03:49.28 I always wanted to buy it. I spoke to an owner and he even sold it to me. Then he took it back. 30 00:03:50.40 --> 00:03:58.48 The Gypsies bought the land. They offered me 150 euros and even completed the paperwork. 31 00:03:58.96 --> 00:04:05.16 I told them to take it if they have a house there. 32 00:04:05.68 --> 00:04:13.40 I got an official fine that said I couldn't sell the land like this. 33 00:04:13.44 --> 00:04:17.52 How was I to know? So I returned the money and took the land back. 34 00:04:17.56 --> 00:04:25.72 Why can Szaniszlo give his land to the extremists, but I can't give mine to the Gypsies? 35 00:04:27.28 --> 00:04:31.32 Shouldn't anyone should be allowed to buy the land? 36 00:04:36.28 --> 00:04:41.24 I call on you. March together... 37 00:04:42.08 --> 00:04:53.56 to our land and show them we are not afraid. 38 00:05:03.24 --> 00:05:13.64 Who are you defending? This is Slovakia? You are defending those fucking Gypsies? Fuck! 39 00:05:14.08 --> 00:05:18.16 It's been a disaster since the fire. 40 00:05:19.08 --> 00:05:34.44 They yelled Fascist things like: "Let's kill them. Let's burn their houses down." 41 00:05:34.48 --> 00:05:36.48 We were afraid to go to the village. 42 00:05:38.08 --> 00:05:48.08 When we marched together with the extremists, things started moving in the right direction. 43 00:05:35.60 --> 00:05:59.56 I can't believe this. The castle burned down and now the problem is with our land. 44 00:06:02.68 --> 00:06:12.72 They failed to deal with it for many years. The Gypsies have lived here for 50... No? 45 00:06:13.80 --> 00:06:24.04 What do they think about us? I don't know, but they call us dirty Gypsies. 46 00:06:29.84 --> 00:06:31.92 They don't consider us human. 47 00:06:34.64 --> 00:06:41.96 If I were them, I'd take the building material and leave once the order comes. 48 00:06:42.00 --> 00:06:49.84 I'd buy a piece of land legally and seek permission to build a house. 49 00:06:50.28 --> 00:06:56.44 I can't speak for the owners of the land. Some want to sell it, but others don't. 50 00:06:57.04 --> 00:07:02.12 We had to give the order for destruction. 51 00:07:03.04 --> 00:07:05.56 I have no place to go. No place to lay my head at night. 52 00:07:05.68 --> 00:07:14.20 It's not about me. My children and grandchildren won't have a future.That is my biggest fear. 53 00:07:19.48 --> 00:07:24.32 I think that the Roma community is growing. 54 00:07:25.04 --> 00:07:29.48 But, the white population is in decline. 55 00:07:29.52 --> 00:07:34.48 What really worries them is that we've become the majority. 56 00:07:34.96 --> 00:07:39.88 And that in a few years we won't be 52 percent, but 72 percent. 57 00:07:42.80 --> 00:07:46.20 I was also a student of this school. 58 00:07:46.24 --> 00:07:52.16 Back then, the settlement existed, but I only had a few Roma classmates. 59 00:07:52.20 --> 00:07:54.60 It wasn't like today. 60 00:08:00.56 --> 00:08:11.80 The actual student ratio is 85 percent Roma and 15 percent white. 61 00:08:12.48 --> 00:08:17.96 If I let my daughter go to this school she will be the only white girl in a class of blacks. 62 00:08:23.24 --> 00:08:30.00 We had to put her in a city school because they wouldn't open a white's-only class. 63 00:08:34.28 --> 00:08:40.68 Who does life treat better, the beautiful or the ugly? 64 00:08:45.52 --> 00:08:50.96 I have an 11-year-old son, but he doesn't go to this school. 65 00:08:51.88 --> 00:08:56.76 I don't have a guilty conscience because of my decision. 66 00:08:59.08 --> 00:09:09.80 I don't see the racial balance improving. One community grows while the other withers. 67 00:09:11.80 --> 00:09:20.72 There are already Roma-only schools here, and I'm sure that we will be next. 68 00:09:38.08 --> 00:09:50.72 For a long time the Gypsies have had their celebration and we have had ours. 69 00:09:52.44 --> 00:10:00.96 It is similar to ours. On the first of May, they have their own party in the settlement. 70 00:10:02.12 --> 00:10:15.52 Certainly there is prejudice. It is really deep-seated. 71 00:10:16.12 --> 00:10:20.92 I don't see real possibilities for change. 72 00:10:25.44 --> 00:10:27.88 The number of Gypsies is growing. 73 00:10:27.92 --> 00:10:33.68 This transition is very painful for people who aren't comfortable in their own skin. 74 00:10:33.72 --> 00:10:36.72 Because they don't know how to live with the Gypsies. 75 00:10:38.68 --> 00:10:44.88 Oh my God, Oh my God. Oh my God... 76 00:10:45.80 --> 00:10:54.64 I don't like that the Gypsies have too many children while the whites are dying out. 77 00:10:54.68 --> 00:11:07.16 There are no new children in the town, not one (white) child in a stroller. 78 00:11:07.20 --> 00:11:14.84 But the Gypsies are doubling our population. 79 00:11:16.40 --> 00:11:26.36 If they have two children, stop them. Cut their balls if we have to. 80 00:11:29.72 --> 00:11:37.72 Interethnic relations used to be good. I hope that'll return. 81 00:11:37.76 --> 00:11:52.44 People have no money and then see many unemployed Roma enjoy social benefits. 82 00:11:52.48 --> 00:11:55.56 What is going to happen is always on my mind. 83 00:11:55.60 --> 00:12:01.16 I am mentally done. I can't sleep and I take it out on my husband. 84 00:12:01.20 --> 00:12:06.04 Then a stranger comes and wants to destroy our house. A man like Szaniszlo... 85 00:12:06.08 --> 00:12:11.24 I, I, I don't know how to stop them. 86 00:12:11.28 --> 00:12:14.12 Why are we making them out to be the victims? 87 00:12:14.16 --> 00:12:25.52 They are living in Slovakia like Alice is living in Wonderland. 88 00:12:25.56 --> 00:12:33.72 As owners, we have nothing to discuss with them. 89 00:12:33.76 --> 00:12:38.68 From our side, there is no solution to the situation. 90 00:12:38.72 --> 00:12:46.36 If they destroy our house, they will destroy others. We need all Gypsies to rally together. 91 00:12:46.40 --> 00:12:50.40 It's about the entire settlement. 92 00:12:51.32 --> 00:12:58.68 I constantly think about finding a solution. 93 00:12:58.72 --> 00:13:08.60 It's not about me or my wife. It's about my children and grandchildren. 94 00:13:09.00 --> 00:13:16.72 Our ancestors are buried here and we will be buried here. We will never leave this place. 95 00:13:16.76 --> 00:13:24.92 I will stay in this house with my children. There isn't anything else I can do. 96 00:13:24.96 --> 00:13:34.92 My ancestors, my grandparents and my parents all come from here, so I belong here. 97 00:13:34.96 --> 00:13:37.92 Home is home. 98 00:13:44.92 --> 00:13:50.40 Where do you put those Gypsies? Will they kill them like the Germans did with the Jews? 99 00:13:51.16 --> 00:13:56.84 There was never justice and there will never be. 100 00:13:59.76 --> 00:14:07.56 We will defend the house even if we have to make a living fence and defend it with our bodies.