1 00:00:03.68 --> 00:00:06.04 I'm considering going to university. 2 00:00:07.00 --> 00:00:10.52 Because if you don’t have a good education, you are nothing. 3 00:00:10.56 --> 00:00:14.44 Without education you cannot succeed in this difficult life. 4 00:00:17.12 --> 00:00:19.08 They don’t give me money to go to school. 5 00:00:19.88 --> 00:00:22.80 I just don’t want to continue studying. 6 00:00:23.32 --> 00:00:26.36 I will go and work with my father. 7 00:00:27.12 --> 00:00:30.52 When I get married my father will help me. 8 00:00:34.68 --> 00:00:36.64 I’m Lili. I’m Roma. 9 00:00:36.68 --> 00:00:38.60 I live in Kyustendil, Bulgaria. 10 00:00:38.64 --> 00:00:42.56 I’m in the 7th grade. I study at St. Paisiy Hylendarski school. 11 00:00:42.96 --> 00:00:46.36 I choose to study because it makes me more self-confident and knowledgeable. 12 00:00:46.52 --> 00:00:48.80 I want to become a doctor. 13 00:01:09.20 --> 00:01:13.76 My name is Botselin, I live in Kyustendil, in the Roma neighbourhood. 14 00:01:14.52 --> 00:01:19.80 I'm a second year student at the university, studying pedagogy. 15 00:01:22.00 --> 00:01:29.48 We know what people associate us with - young marriage, no desire to study, 16 00:01:29.80 --> 00:01:34.28 stealing and so on. I don’t want to continue with the list. 17 00:01:42.36 --> 00:01:44.52 It's clear how they see us. 18 00:01:44.56 --> 00:01:47.64 But not all Roma are the way they present us. 19 00:01:49.92 --> 00:01:55.04 For us Roma, education is the only path to integration. 20 00:02:41.08 --> 00:02:47.28 None of my grandparents knew how to read or write. 21 00:02:50.60 --> 00:02:53.80 My father finished 8th grade. 22 00:02:53.84 --> 00:02:58.60 I chose to continue studying after 8th grade. 23 00:03:01.20 --> 00:03:06.76 I was a good student. My mother and father both worked, so 24 00:03:06.80 --> 00:03:12.48 I had the opportunity to study. I had the desire and finished high school. 25 00:03:15.80 --> 00:03:19.96 I stopped my studies because I couldn’t afford it. 26 00:03:20.88 --> 00:03:24.48 We all know that in order to go to university, you need money. 27 00:03:25.04 --> 00:03:31.48 I finished in 1991, when there were riots in Bulgaria. 28 00:03:31.88 --> 00:03:36.12 And you couldn’t find a job anywhere. 29 00:03:36.44 --> 00:03:39.56 Through connections I got a job as a school janitor. 30 00:03:44.12 --> 00:03:50.32 Twenty or 21 years now- working as a janitor. 31 00:03:56.40 --> 00:04:01.24 First, I wanted to become a singer, but I realised my voice is not so good. 32 00:04:01.96 --> 00:04:03.84 Then a doctor and so many other things. 33 00:04:05.48 --> 00:04:09.92 You have to fight for what you want and achieve your goals one-by-one. 34 00:04:37.20 --> 00:04:45.28 Raina is a good student. She'll have an A or B this year. 35 00:04:54.52 --> 00:04:56.68 I think the family environment is important for her. 36 00:04:57.56 --> 00:04:59.16 Her mother was our student as well. 37 00:05:14.44 --> 00:05:18.28 Some of the student's parents don't have an education 38 00:05:19.88 --> 00:05:26.12 and I guess their children copy them and don't try hard at school. 39 00:05:26.72 --> 00:05:31.44 You cannot finish 8th grade and think that you are a complete person. 40 00:05:32.44 --> 00:05:38.60 When you are among other people, when there is integration, 41 00:05:39.80 --> 00:05:45.88 you watch how the others live, how others think 42 00:05:46.36 --> 00:05:53.28 and you see there is a better lifestyle. You see that there are better alternatives for you. 43 00:05:53.64 --> 00:06:00.28 That's the way – education, so we can get out of this ghetto where we live. 44 00:06:06.20 --> 00:06:08.32 Emil? Are you ready? 45 00:06:17.36 --> 00:06:19.80 I dream of becoming a great football player. 46 00:06:20.28 --> 00:06:23.40 I just don’t want to continue studying. 47 00:06:24.40 --> 00:06:26.88 They don't give me money to go to school. 48 00:06:36.80 --> 00:06:38.72 I don’t want to have a difficult life. 49 00:06:54.48 --> 00:06:56.36 He’s like an iceberg. 50 00:06:56.40 --> 00:06:58.96 You see a little and there is a lot underneath, 51 00:06:58.100 --> 00:07:01.28 but you don’t know what it is. 52 00:07:01.32 --> 00:07:03.76 Sometimes he leaves after the third class 53 00:07:03.80 --> 00:07:07.56 most likely because he is hungry, but he gives other reasons. 54 00:07:09.96 --> 00:07:16.28 In 5th grade he was reading really well and was able to answer questions. 55 00:07:18.96 --> 00:07:23.00 After that his attendence was irregular. 56 00:07:23.04 --> 00:07:26.88 Also, he can’t focus very well. 57 00:07:28.52 --> 00:07:33.60 What my eyes see is poverty… 58 00:07:36.48 --> 00:07:38.16 long-lasting poverty, 59 00:07:39.92 --> 00:07:41.84 that the family cannot climb out of. 60 00:07:47.32 --> 00:07:50.32 I wish that he’d continue but 61 00:07:51.04 --> 00:07:54.52 I don't see how he can unless somebody supports him. 62 00:07:55.36 --> 00:07:56.52 Real support. 63 00:07:57.12 --> 00:07:58.40 Financial support. 64 00:08:00.00 --> 00:08:02.12 Then he’d definitely walk the way. 65 00:08:23.32 --> 00:08:30.40 About the pigeons - I have a theory that in that ghetto, 66 00:08:30.60 --> 00:08:34.72 that small area where his time passes by, 67 00:08:34.76 --> 00:08:36.40 by releasing the pigeons, 68 00:08:36.44 --> 00:08:39.52 he sees that there is another space. 69 00:08:39.56 --> 00:08:42.20 I think that is why he looks after the pigeons. 70 00:08:56.48 --> 00:08:59.40 The football field is where he feels equal to the others. 71 00:09:07.60 --> 00:09:10.52 Most children want to study, but what stops them is 72 00:09:10.56 --> 00:09:13.84 the financial situation, the unemployment, the poverty... 73 00:09:14.16 --> 00:09:16.20 Ahhh, I did it. 74 00:09:16.40 --> 00:09:20.24 A "B" in literature and a "C" in math. 75 00:09:21.00 --> 00:09:23.76 Ohh, I have them! 76 00:09:23.80 --> 00:09:26.60 Today I got the results of my exams 77 00:09:26.64 --> 00:09:29.88 which determine if I’ll be accepted into the school of my choice. 78 00:09:30.48 --> 00:09:34.36 The difference between Lili and me is that she's more ambitious. 79 00:09:34.40 --> 00:09:35.84 Maybe she's smarter. 80 00:09:37.28 --> 00:09:40.80 What I wasn’t able to achieve in my life, I want Lili to achieve in hers. 81 00:09:40.88 --> 00:09:45.44 To graduate high school and apply somewhere else after that. Whatever she wants. 82 00:09:45.44 --> 00:09:49.04 To graduate and find a nice job. 83 00:10:18.36 --> 00:10:22.24 I finished 9th grade and dropped out. 84 00:10:22.68 --> 00:10:26.44 It was a big mistake, but it's done. 85 00:10:29.12 --> 00:10:31.76 I don't want her to be like me. 86 00:10:36.12 --> 00:10:40.28 Not to be a street cleaner like me, to have a job for seven, 14 days, 87 00:10:40.48 --> 00:10:43.24 for nine months and then be unemployed again. 88 00:10:48.72 --> 00:10:54.32 I want her to have a profession, to rely on herself. 89 00:10:54.44 --> 00:10:56.64 I go to an integrated school where there are Bulgarians and Roma. 90 00:10:56.68 --> 00:11:00.72 I get along well with everyone. There is no discrimination. 91 00:11:00.84 --> 00:11:06.24 I've never had a problem with my classmates. They’ve never called me a Gypsy or anything. 92 00:11:06.72 --> 00:11:11.08 To me, without education, you can't achieve anything. 93 00:11:12.64 --> 00:11:17.04 I hope that I will keep going and succeed. 94 00:11:17.88 --> 00:11:23.72 Not all Roma are the way we have been described. 95 00:11:24.36 --> 00:11:28.32 There are many ambitious children who want to continue their education. 96 00:11:30.08 --> 00:11:33.56 I really want my parents to say: "My child became a doctor." 97 00:11:46.76 --> 00:11:49.68 I can tell you that when we started with integration 10-12 years ago, 98 00:11:51.96 --> 00:11:56.44 when the first 10 children came from the “Iztok” neighbourhood, 99 00:11:56.48 --> 00:12:02.20 there were people who wanted to revolt. 100 00:12:05.68 --> 00:12:08.28 "Raina, you are a Gypsy, but you have to respect Stoyan. 101 00:12:08.32 --> 00:12:12.28 Even though he is half-Bulgarian, he is still a person. 102 00:12:12.88 --> 00:12:17.56 I will respect him. We love each other. 103 00:12:17.80 --> 00:12:23.64 You Roma are nice people. You taught me how to live each day to the fullest. 104 00:12:24.56 --> 00:12:26.16 Like every day is the last day. " 105 00:12:27.04 --> 00:12:30.96 After several years things got calmer. 106 00:12:31.60 --> 00:12:35.40 People realised that there was nothing to fear about integrated schools. 107 00:12:36.40 --> 00:12:40.28 Sometimes the kids with the best grades are Roma kids. 108 00:12:42.28 --> 00:12:48.04 This is great because these children need positive role models. 109 00:12:51.40 --> 00:12:55.12 And the best thing is, that when the kids are together starting in the first grade, 110 00:12:55.16 --> 00:12:58.24 they build long-lasting friendships. 111 00:12:58.72 --> 00:13:04.04 I am positive that by accepting their differences, 112 00:13:04.60 --> 00:13:09.64 they will become better and more tolerant. And that is our goal. 113 00:13:11.28 --> 00:13:16.04 The Roma kids from the neighbourhood who come here 114 00:13:16.08 --> 00:13:22.48 are usually children of parents who realise the power of education. 115 00:13:25.80 --> 00:13:27.92 The cycle can be broken 116 00:13:29.52 --> 00:13:36.48 If the government stops keeping Roma people uneducated and impoverished 117 00:13:37.04 --> 00:13:39.08 in order to have power and control over them. 118 00:13:45.00 --> 00:13:55.68 Until there is less discrimination in Bulgaria, there's no way. 119 00:14:00.20 --> 00:14:04.48 "To teach adults about care and love... 120 00:14:06.36 --> 00:14:12.28 Our dreams aren't different. 121 00:14:09.80 --> 00:14:14.60 The children want to be happy. 122 00:14:18.88 --> 00:14:19.88 And when we grow up one day... 123 00:14:19.92 --> 00:14:24.76 we are going to teach the adults how to care and love..."